For a few months now, Teri Vlassopoulos and I have been trying, failingly, to coordinate timezones for a followup to “Of First Books and Chicken Feet,” our IM “uninterview” from August 23d.
Teri is the author of the fantastically-reviewed short story collection, Bats or Swallows (Invisible Publishing, 2010), and we’ve been long-distance friends since we both enrolled in the Humber School for Writers mentorship program. After five years, with most of Canada between us, we’ve never met.

After failed appointments, confusion over what time it is in BC when it’s 6:30pm in Montreal, and an inked-in date that was nearly forgotten when a paper box of French fries got the better of one of us, we finally connected and caught up on what’s happened since both of our books were published in the Fall.
The day after we chatted, it happened that Mennonites Don’t Dance was shortlisted for the Commonwealth Prize. Teri, being the amazing friend she is, quickly substituted this uninterview with one that caught my reaction. Which meant another month has gotten away and some of what was anticipated in the following conversation has come to pass.
Confession: Both the timezone snafu and French fry incident were my fault. Teri was ready with fast forgiveness, and here’s what we talked about:
Darcie
The last time we typed to each other, we were still waiting for our books to be released. Now that the first season’s over, how’s booking?
Teri
Booking is good! A little calmer these days. How is it for you?
Darcie
Honestly, I’m going a little barmy, buzzarding over every issue of the the Globe & Mail since my publisher said there might be a review.
Teri
Very exciting!
Darcie
It is that! But I’m begining to worry I imagined it. Like a sighting of Sasquatch. Or Ogopogo, for those who live around here.
Teri
Rule #1 about the media: be patient.
Darcie
A lesson that I keep having to relearn. Although the crimp in my shoulders suggests anxiety more than impatience.
A pause to consider the implications of either a good or less-than-twinkling review from a publication Canadian authors tremble before.
Teri
The last time we talked I was living in Athens! Our books weren’t even out yet! How did you see your book for the first time? Thistledown mailed you copies?
Darcie
The doorbell rang early one morning. I flung off my blankets, two cats, and raced downstairs to intercept. I wish I’d had time to brush my teeth.
While I stood back and waited for Thistledown to unveil my book cover, Teri had a creative vision for how Bats or Swallows would look. The cover art, as you see above, is beautifully pared down, just like Teri’s voice in her stories. Still, even though we both had galleys, and Teri knew what her book would look like, there’s nothing like seeing the actual item for the first time.
Teri
We did everything through PDF, so I saw everything in electronic format, but it’s hard to conceive that those documents will actually be a BOOK.
So it was still a happy surprise to get the books in the mail. I totally cried (in a happy way). And I have to say I felt the same frisson of excitement with my e-book… I’ve become a total ebook convert over the past few months. I love my Kindle.
And then we talked touring:
So, you did a bunch of touring for your book since September – you’ve covered a lot of the west coast?
Teri
I did a lot in Montreal and Toronto, but not much in other cities. I need to get on that in 2011. All of the reviews were a surprise, actually. Sometimes I didn’t find out about it until I got a Google Alert for the name of the book.
Invisible was good at getting the book out for reviews – they told me they had things lined up
Actually, it wasn’t always a surprise. Some things were interviewed ahead of time (like the Chronicle Herald article on the weekend), and some I knew were in the pipeline (like Q&Q). But it was like your G&M review – a matter of waiting.
It’s good and bad. The Saturday morning I woke up and got the email about the Gazette review, I groaned and ducked under the covers for a minute. I was afraid to read it!
I wanted to just enjoy my weekend.
Darcie
Without Google Alerts I’d become an internet trawling narcisist. Not because I love looking at my own reflection, just to make sure I have one!
I have to ask, do you have a most hated question, either (or both) when the asker is a member of the press, or just a random someone?
Teri
I haven’t done many interviews, but the questions I’ve been asked have been pretty thoughtful, so that’s nice. I’m surprised/amused by how many people I know (acquaintance, co-workers, etc) ask me what certain stories MEAN
Peope are very preoccupied with MEANINGS. The right one.
Darcie
What do you tell them?
Teri
I try to reassure them that whatever meaning they want to assign to a story is good enough and that my stories aren’t meant to be puzzles to be solved.
I’m realizing that a lot of people avoid reading because they think the author is trying to trick them in some way and that they won’t be able to figure it out.
Darcie
What about being asked whether the stories are true?
Teri
Oh yeah, I get that question. Actually, not even in question format – just assumptions that things are true! I mentioned this on my blog, but my cousin was all, “hey, you killed off your dad in one of your stories – so funny!”
Darcie
People have been assuming my stories are true since my Chicken Soup for the soul days (we all have to start somewhere). But the worst question, I think, must be, “How many books have you sold.”
Teri
Ahh! Yeah! that too. That question is just HARD to answer
I have no idea. And if people knew the real math behind books, they would be bewildered at the number.
I think it’s awesome you were in a Chicken Soup book – it’s kind of random/amazing
Darcie
Well, then, you’ll be pleased to know I was in two issues. The second story was true. True enough. The first contract didn’t state that it had to be, and I didn’t know any better.
Teri
So after all the nervousness for book launches, I gather you ended up enjoying them?
Darcie
The launches, yes. Doing the readings, meeting truly wonderful readers, signing copies. Amazing! I just don’t know quite how to say how expensive they are, personally. This urban hermit is used to closed doors.
Teri
Haha, I understand. I think I fall somewhere between you and our pal Lisa… so while I loved it and would do it all again in a second, it was still exhausting!
Note: Lisa wrote Snowdrift, a memoir about dropping out of Oxford to become a Canadian ski bum. Read her uninterview with Teri here.
Darcie
She had so much fun. But then, I didn’t exactly write a fun book!
Teri
Definitely. Your book isn’t exactly a romp in the park. Black humour. A universal sadness
Darcie
My mom told me that a pair or Mennonite ladies were splitting their guts laughing over the scene of the whole chicken in the soup pot, with the feet sticking out. Mennonite humour!
Teri
What does your family think of the book now that it’s out?
Darcie
My mom is pleased as peas, selling more copies, personally, than I am. But still… It’s a lot of roughage to digest.
Teri
I feel bad for my parents’ friends: for Christmas, they all got the same present: one copy of my book, and one of Andrew’s
Darcie
BEST PREZZIES EVER!!!
Teri
It’s cute getting emails from them.
Where have all my probing questions gone! Teri, being a better uninterviewer, kept dangling such good bait.
Sooooo how have things changed now that the book is out?
Darcie
I guess I feel like I fit the cutout I imagined for myself now. Instead of the pigeon hole wannabe writers have to live in until they prove themselves. Don’t get me wrong, though. Pigeon holes are useful. Everyone should have to spend time in one.
Now, tell me, accountant by day, author by night. What has this book changed about your life?
Teri
On the surface it hasn’t changed anything. Things are very different than they were last year, but that’s just because other aspects of my life are different (i.e. living back in Montreal, changed day jobs, etc.)
If anything, it’s made me more motivated to finish my next book, and it’s made me really grateful for the supportive folks in my life who’ve made the experience so much fun, from my family and close friends to my publishers and online friends (like you!)
Darcie
So what’s up next in terms of touring or reading close to home?
Teri
Right now I’m working on a few days in Halifax.
We’re going to visit Andrew’s parents in Cape Breton, and Robbie from Invisible is in Halifax so I think we’ll have a good party.
I would like to do something in Ottawa too
Darcie
Having helpers seeded here and there is so nice.
Like here in Kelowna, where your friend, Darcie, would arrange something, even though she’s a hermit and doesn’t know many people.
Teri
Haha… I would love to go out west! Canada, you’re too big!
Darcie
Small world. Big country.